What a story! I will be back later after I talk to Bill Mitchelll and Larry McCartney. They both knew Julius and I will see what they have to say, and add the info to this story. By the way, a lot of people who contribute to this web site are not registered members, but they are members none the less. This includes people who were Nomads and other Marines and other Vets, and a lot of family members too. I have been talking to some of these guys for almost twelve years, either in person, or else here on the web, and many people have helped me gather information whether visual, audio or text files with just the words to a story. Anyway, I hope to keep talking to these guys for the duration. SF